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Poster: spider_john Date: Mar 1, 2006 1:00am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: stupid mkw and xp problems

i tried front end...couldn't figure how to generate the md5 or whatever flac is supposed to use for verification. i've actually got the tracks converted to flac but got stuck here. any help would be appreciated.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Mar 1, 2006 1:05am
Forum: etree Subject: SHN issues - FLAC it instead!

Definitely use FLAC John, it's soooo much better than SHN (it's still being improved for one thing, whereas SHN stopped being developed years ago)! Let us know what you need help with on FLAC to get going.

This post was modified by Brad Leblanc on 2006-03-01 09:05:00

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Poster: xtifr Date: Mar 1, 2006 4:47am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: SHN issues - FLAC it instead!

Indeed, isn't the Archive planning (or at least hoping) to convert the old SHN seeds to FLAC someday? Possibly with an audit trail so that people who want to verify their filesets against known sources will be able to do so? Frankly, I can't wait--shorten is one of the only programs on my system that fails to meet the Open Source Definition, and I would strongly prefer to have none.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Mar 2, 2006 1:19pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: SHN issues - FLAC it instead!

I'm hapy with either SHN or FLAC. The morons (who no longer generate a MD5 check sum) are what pisses me off. How frigging lazy can they get?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Mar 2, 2006 8:50pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: SHN issues - FLAC it instead!

Not having some kind of checksum data with the fileset is not typically an issue for incoming filesets here at the LMA, nowadays. And over at bt.etree.org, admins have put in some new requirements that you will like, see http://forums.etree.org/viewtopic.php?t=7025

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Mar 3, 2006 5:01am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: SHN issues - FLAC it instead!

Indeed, isn't the Archive planning (or at least hoping) to convert the old SHN seeds to FLAC someday?

We were, but it got tabled when some of the uploaders complained that "I don't remember giving you permission to change my source files." Similar to our plans to tag the FLAC's. We'd rather not lose uploads over that type of stuff.

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Poster: spider_john Date: Mar 1, 2006 2:44am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: SHN issues - FLAC it instead!

ah, these new fangled programmie things. brad...i remember you from the days of foc. i think we did a lot of seeding back them. i think my id back then was scifoc. diane hamilton seems familar also. good to see you still involved. if you ever need volunteers, lemme know.

jonathan

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Mar 1, 2006 2:00am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: stupid mkw and xp problems

couldn't figure how to generate the md5

You can also use md5summer. Free at:

http://www.md5summer.org/

to make an md5 of anything you want. a group of .shn files, .flac, a single .jpg or whatever..

and I vote too to go to .flac. I was a .shn user for years and said "no thanks" to flac. Till I finally tried it .. i'd never even think of going back to .shn...

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Poster: J.C. Date: Mar 1, 2006 1:27am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: stupid mkw and xp problems

Heya Spider,

Flac uses things called "fingerprints" instead of md5s for verification.

On the toolbar of the .flac frontend is a button marked "fingerprint". Select the .flac files you want the fingerprints for and hit it. This will create a text file only--flac files are self-verifying.

More on fingerprints here:

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=FlacFingerprint



This post was modified by J.C. on 2006-03-01 09:27:06

This post was modified by J.C. on 2006-03-01 09:27:24

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Mar 1, 2006 2:03am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: stupid mkw and xp problems

Flac uses things called "fingerprints" instead of md5s for verification.

Ah, but you may need an md5 as well, since the LMA requires them to tell you a track from your upload didn't pass checksum. They're not compulsory, of course, but you've gotta be perfect otherwise. :)

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Poster: xtifr Date: Mar 1, 2006 4:54am
Forum: etree Subject: fingerprint verification

Hmm, a while back, I sent a script (to Brad, IIRC) that allowed verification of a fingerprint file, but I don't know what ever happened with it. Maybe I should try to post it somewhere public so I can start getting some feedback on it. I'm sure it will work on Linux, BSD, Solaris, MacOSX, and other UNIXlike systems, but I have no idea (and no way to test) if it will work on Windows, although I think, in theory, it should.

In any case, the need for MD5s for proper feedback is something that Archive definitely can (and IMO should) solve. Though I realize that a lack of time and manpower is probably the biggest obstacle.

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